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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptics own

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episode number 260 there's got to be

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some sort of milestone for the 13th of

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october2013 Richard Saunders here with

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you from Sydney Australia now before we

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go any further before we go any further

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with the skeptic zone this week my

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heartfelt thanks to all those people who

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twittered and facebooked and especially

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emailed me directly ah but their

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condolences over the loss of a dear

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little cat Adele very touching wow thank

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you all so much yeah there's something

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about owning a pet a cat in this

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situation that sir it's quite something

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so I must really thank everybody for

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taking the time to her send me well

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wishes and all the people who sent

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photographs and told me how they're

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giving their cattle there doll or their

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pet a little bit of extra attention an

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extra pad an extra treat em in the

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memory of a dalit so touching thank you

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all so very much but now let's get on to

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this week's show this week's show is a

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Maynard special haven't seen may not on

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the show in the last little while wow

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he's made up for this week folks because

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yesterday he and I and a bunch of other

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skeptics went to skeptic camp in Sydney

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and I'm delighted to say that skeptic

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camp in Sydney was a huge success wow

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what a fun day so many interesting talks

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so many interesting people who meet and

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talk with and I'm delighted that skeptic

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fans were there and they came and up and

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said hello so much so that Maynard is

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going to be interviewing some skeptics

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own fans on this week's show one lovely

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lady in particular Heidi hello Heidi who

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listens to the skeptics own driving

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along through the countryside is

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involved in a very important initiative

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up in the northern part of this state

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New South Wales up in the northern

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rivers to do with them fighting for

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vaccinations more about that more about

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that coming up soon you're

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Maynard's extensive report in the

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skeptic camp he's also going to be

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interviewing me my presentation all

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about spoon bending on the radio spoon

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bending on the radio had a lot of fun

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doing that and taught a lot of people

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how to bend spoons also and of course

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the most important aspect of skeptic

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camp cupcake camp oh boy those cupcakes

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my friends you should have tasted those

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cupcakes they were fantastic the one

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that stole my heart was the cookie

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monster cupcake delicious but we'll find

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out who actually won the cupcake

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competition towards the end of maynards

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report from skeptic camp we're also

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going to be hearing from Jason Brown and

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Dave the happy singer and lots of other

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people enjoying the day and next week's

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even more from skeptic camp and for all

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you fans of a week in science from the

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Royal Institution of Australia w WR I a

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u.s. OG you fear not that's coming up to

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couldn't have a week without the the

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week in science you know skeptic count

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was so much fun it's whetted my appetite

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whetted my appetite for the upcoming

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Australian skeptics National Convention

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and our friends in Canberra tell me

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tickets left you still can get your

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see that I think it's going to be a

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Australian skeptics National Convention

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and if by the end of this episode you

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are so impressed with me nerds boundless

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enthusiasm and energy as he runs around

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interviewing people well look out after

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the Australian skeptics national

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convention week and have so many

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wonderful interviews from me not for you

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to enjoy and you can help you can you

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know help out a little bit we're just

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trying to raise enough funds to cover

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Maynard's hotel room and there's a link

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on the skeptic zone site www skeptics on

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TV you can buy us around the drinks

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which is really a way of just getting

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some money to us which will put towards

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it's at less than four hundred dollars

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will cover the lot so we hope we can we

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can meet that anyway that's enough from

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the cat hello Fred an extra little pat

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there now I think although run

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do have a spare cookie monster cupcake

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years may not spooky action at a

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shorts as the excitement of skeptic camp

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washes over all of us everyone's very

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excited for the first talk which I've

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around criticism of the New South Wales

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skeptics which is good because I've just

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days ago so I'm very happy about this

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the skeptic Joe my name is main others

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for the skeptic zone and I've note

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there's a man taking photos of some

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post-it notes on a whiteboard you must

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have an exciting life my man never

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underestimate the excitement of posted

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notes the looks I'm actually trying to

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keep track of who's going in which

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speaking stock so I'm running around

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taking a lot of photos for today and the

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last couple of years I've just

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completely lost track of who was

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speaking and what they were talking

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about also have the photos you can go

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back to know who they were yeah and you

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yeah now we've had a couple of talks

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already today what are you made of it we

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had some controversial stuff we've had

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some futuristic stuff yeah only Besson

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one it was the most amusing anyway uh

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not sure how much I should really talk

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about it because it was beer dam they

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built up rant over time so what could be

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been only person that's mention i think

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ponder the mystery could well be the the

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insertive very well hmm and it was it's

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topic can be brought around to the

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status of course again as as can indeed

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cupcake camp that is coming on later i

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famous cupcake camp competition will be

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held later have you had an inside

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organizers to so any idea what style

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all Barry what the all the things right

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friends of science and medicine but

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we've discovered Heidi hey Heidi how I

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made Adam very well you know what do you

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think of skeptic am today first time it

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is my first time I'm overwhelmed I'm

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here after meeting few of them let me

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assure you it's merely a venir okay well

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that makes me feel a little better I

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suppose what's been your favorite talk

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moment oh look i don't know i'm a little

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support for a friend of mine Alison who

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Northern Rivers vaccination support its

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group oh yes I yes I saw us or asking a

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few great questions there and you're a

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as well and we like to meet Alice

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doesn't find out what they're doing when

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they listen so what are you doing when

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you listen to the zone okay well I

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probably came across the skeptic zone

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conversation hours and when I will find

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her research fascinating and when I

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looked more into it and then I

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discovered she was involved with the

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skeptic zone then I started listening to

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the skeptic zone and it's a great way to

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spend the time when I'm driving across

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pop the podcast on and away I go all

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right and how do i understand that

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you've been so inspired by your journey

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and skepticism that you've started up a

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new group well i am i am a member of the

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group i wasn't one of the founding

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members but i'm actively involved now we

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vaccination supporters if people are

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interested in learning more about us and

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what we do they can go to Northern

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Rivers vaccination supporters org so

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basically we're a group of people we're

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only nearly formed only a few months now

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we've got about a hundred and forty

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there but mostly community members who

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are concerned about the low vaccination

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rates in the northern rivers so our aim

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correct some of the misinformation out

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there to do with them to vaccinations

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what have you been up to most recently

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recently myself and Tony McCaffrey who

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tragically lost the baby to whooping

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cough she and i went to a lismore

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council meeting and put in a deputation

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to follow small city council to lobby

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the state and federal Parliament's to

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bring back the free whooping cough

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booster for women in their third

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trimester that's our latest thing but

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that and people get online there and

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support now one other what else do you

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listen to the podcast always like to

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know what other ones they listen to a

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have you gotten the others well yes

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because of make another bloody episode

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and someone might listen to it smartass

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but we've got the drunken skills that in

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vino veritas podcast i would recommend

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they only did three shows and they

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folded because of alcoholic poisoning

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but it's well worth a listen I'll give

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that one to go the through the skeptic

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zone as well I learned about some other

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podcasts out there I'm a big fan of the

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Ross and Carrie show I think they're

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hilarious I

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I love their show as well so I always

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keep up to date with them with the

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skeptic zone and I've recently also

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started listening to stuff you should

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know okay laughs you should know which

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is yeah it's interesting as well I well

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you know me I was going to give a free

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kick for the paranormal shows like in

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mysterious universe you know and gender

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and of course the look at his butt

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podcast all about William Shatner ah I

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can't comment on that I'm gonna be

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googling that boat yeah look look at his

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butt always or it's everything Shatner

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everything Star Trek but not as you know

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it okay but whether you want that in

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your car while you're traveling a long

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distance that only you can make that

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decision Heidi you have to focus

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somewhat on the road yeah listeners

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can't see the fact that Heidi is going

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to shade of red yeah and look have a

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good day and they think maybe next year

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you'll be back giving a speech shape I i

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yes I think definitely I might give that

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a go yes I'll probably need the whole 12

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months to work on it as well oh thanks

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for coming down thanks for listening

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Heidi thank you my nod thank you later

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on there now conversation is the

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extraordinary thing of bending a spoon

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on radio which you think would be is

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crazy it's like ventriloquist dummy on

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redhead I hope you'll see how it works

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alright so that any further ado I'll

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hand it over to our DJ may not yes well

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come out later on the ABC will have a

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very boring through our interview with

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someone no one's ever heard of but right

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now we've got Richard Saunders in the

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studio who apparently still is to do

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with the new south wales or Australian

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skeptics although luckily i joined the

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Papua New Guinea skeptics during the

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last talk so I've got nothing to do with

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them so Richard I believe you're going

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to do a polemic against that poor old

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uri geller who are my good friend Jake

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hats who is a anomalous believe sir has

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been hard done by by certain people like

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James Randi over the years thank you may

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not good to be here when we make

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ourselves comfortable uri geller being

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hard done by you know he does pretty

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well for a guy who's been hard done by

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he still has radio and TV shows around

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the world he still performs I think he

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calls himself a mr. fire now he's sort

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of backed away from the paranormal

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what about claims by people such as

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Rupert Sheldrake that there is a genuine

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one consciousness which someone like uri

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geller can tap into all claims including

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those by people we don't agree with the

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subject to testing and verification if

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there is this thing and he can come up

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with a decent way to prove it and test

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it and have it reproduced by other

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people around the world that's the way

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to go and as yet unless I'm sorely

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mistaken that hasn't happened look we'll

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get on to the Kennedy assassination

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later but right now because we work

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because the house select committee are

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actually almost overturned the original

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finding of the loan demand you know that

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but you did you ignore that every time

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you come on my show I'm in denial me the

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acoustic evidence is undeniable there

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was someone on the grassy knoll anyway

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we'll get on to that later because no

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one's really isn't that stuff because

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you want to use that term for anything

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else ever the only grassy knoll I've

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ever heard of a cinch it's in Texas in

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Dallas well that's it it's a sign this

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is the grassy knoll well yeah you never

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heard anyone say I'm gonna mow my grass

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eknoll which which I might I think I'll

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get a t-shirt made with that on it now

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Richard what are you gonna demonstrate

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to us here and since it's on radio and

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we can't see you how do we know that

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you're not pulling a fast one we have a

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studio audience hello studio audience

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they're going to be our judges so to

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speak at the whole point what I've got

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in the studio audience can attest I've

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got a whole table here of spoons I get

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them at the catering store down near the

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Australian Museum in fact there's a

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catering store you can buy pots and pans

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and spoons and a young lady in the

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audience kindly was would you like to

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pop down and just verify for our studio

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and while she's doing that can you also

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get whipped cream bulbs there Richard

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I'm sure you can maybe not thank you I

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just I'll get the address later it feels

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like a normal spoon that you would use

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at home or at a restaurant or something

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that says s / s on the back of it okay

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now does it appear it's been weakened at

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all on the joint there no okay all right

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so there's that I'm in that there thank

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you very much you're still in their

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packets many of them they just scattered

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about but this is how and using theory

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theory of the mind because our studio

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audience and

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moment I'll get you to shut your eyes

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but don't worry I'll show you again in a

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minute what's what's really going on so

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this is what would happen this I learned

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that we're in the studio so everybody

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shut their eyes shut their eyes and

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pretend studio audience that you're

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listening on the radio well meinen i'm

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going to show you here i live on radio

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how spoon bending works now can you

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verify that's just a normal spoon if i

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tap that like that just looks like a

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normal spoon and i'm having a close

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inspection man look at it and i can see

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that there is no no inspect inspector

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number 43 says that's just fine I'm

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going to hold this one up I'm holding

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this one up now I'm going to wiggle it

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slowly and if you can tell people what

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you see happening okay well I can see

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the spoon moving back and forth I can

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see the tail and the head of it moving

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back and forth in a straight line but as

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you appear to do it it appears to be

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moving suddenly in a different way and

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the top is actually looking very

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flexible as if it's about to flop off

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and it's actually bent at an

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increasingly it's almost at a 90-degree

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angle there and that that you

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successfully broke the spoon how about

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that people now normally I would expect

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a bit of misdirection or something like

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that when you did that but how did you

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do that mr. skeptic I'm suspicious of

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you the studio audience can open their

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eyes now so that's what it sounds like

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when I'm on the radio and the people at

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home listening now on this for the

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podcast would have got the same thing I

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all I have to do is the same trick that

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I normally do Maynard describes what's

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happening and everybody listening has an

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image in their mind of what's happening

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it helps if Maynard which he was was

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sort of impressed and a bit confused and

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a bit stunned about what's going on now

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every time I've done that on the radio

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people ring up the radio station and say

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how does he do it how does he do it

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because the mind is a wonderful thing

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you know all i have to do is a simple

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trick that the sound of the spoon

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hitting the table seals the deal it's a

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wonderful thing now spoon bending of

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course it's a very old conjuring trick

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there are two ways to do it the first

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way is to get a normal spoon like

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they're all normal spoons by the way

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they're all from the shop and they're

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not special magic spoons so if i get

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that spoon like that and i start to rub

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it like this now don't forget that in

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the back of your minds you're expecting

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to see a spoon to been so that's already

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you know working away in your mind so if

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i do that there's gasp from the audience

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and the spoon appears to bend like that

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would you agree Maynard yeah look at

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that look at that ok so that's that's

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the first way the second way is the

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actual break where it falls into two

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parts and for the benefit of the studio

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audience well maybe there is a little

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bit of preparation involved in doing

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that I'm not saying there is or there

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isn't you know as far as I know it's

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just mystical mystical means so let's

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try that again this time you can keep

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your eyes open hey my dad look I've got

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a solid spoon here mmm now watch what

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happens oh yeah and it cuz we see both

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parts of its seeming to move

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independently of one another and it

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seems to be separating going wobbly

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wobbly like the molten metal in the

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Terminator movie and there we go again

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wow look what I can't figure out is you

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distressed that spoon then in front of

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us how did you distress the spoon

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earlier with me being able to have a

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look at it and seeing it's not

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distressed oh that was psychic oh that

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was better here's another interesting

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thing and it's something magicians know

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full well I can do all sorts of things

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here with spoons and misdirect you and

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you will miss remember what happened in

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fact earlier when you were examining

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spoons I just made sure you weren't

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examining the spoon that I didn't want

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you to examine but you don't remember

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that you don't remember that the best

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one I did was in the studio once I had

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to

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perfectly good spoons like like these

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are and i had a another one which i had

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here so i was here and the announcer was

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just near me but there was a bit of a

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panel between us so I gave him both

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spoons and he examined them very

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carefully like this and he bent them a

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little bit and I said now passed me back

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one spoon so if you hold those two in

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your other hand may nod so I said okay

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I'll take the spoon and I brought it

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back like this and in a flash I swapped

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it for another spoon because of the

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panel he didn't see that and it was just

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one simple movement so when I started to

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work on the spoon as far as he knew the

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announcer he just given me a perfectly

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good spoon when I did the whole routine

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and he explained to the audience my god

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it's bending I can't believe it broke

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and he was just you know his mind was

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swimming how could I possibly do that

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and it comes back to the point where I I

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can do these things and you could do

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them too it's just a matter of practice

537
00:21:26,129 --> 00:21:23,529
the best one I ever did I think it was I

538
00:21:28,589 --> 00:21:26,139
was it being interviewed by a Current

539
00:21:30,779 --> 00:21:28,599
Affair the channel 9 TV show and I gave

540
00:21:33,180 --> 00:21:30,789
the reporter 2 spoons and he had a close

541
00:21:35,879 --> 00:21:33,190
look at them and he held onto one and

542
00:21:37,769 --> 00:21:35,889
while I engaged him in conversation like

543
00:21:40,219 --> 00:21:37,779
this and I said well I don't think and I

544
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:40,229
was talking I was working on the spoon

545
00:21:46,259 --> 00:21:43,690
hello just down here just out of his

546
00:21:47,729 --> 00:21:46,269
eyesight and it only took a second only

547
00:21:49,229 --> 00:21:47,739
take a second when you you know you

548
00:21:51,049 --> 00:21:49,239
practice for long enough especially if

549
00:21:53,820 --> 00:21:51,059
I'm talking to you I'm there it's done

550
00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:53,830
that's all it takes and I can just carry

551
00:21:59,039 --> 00:21:56,529
on holding it casually start to work on

552
00:22:00,869 --> 00:21:59,049
it and way it goes now who would like to

553
00:22:05,969 --> 00:22:00,879
give it a gut would you like to try our

554
00:22:08,129 --> 00:22:05,979
young volunteer come down a big yep

555
00:22:09,389 --> 00:22:08,139
Vanessa coming down and you're going to

556
00:22:11,489 --> 00:22:09,399
try and teach you how to do some spoon

557
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:11,499
bending absolutely i think the the

558
00:22:16,169 --> 00:22:14,799
hardest bit of this is trying to get do

559
00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:16,179
the misdirection so they don't see you

560
00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:17,470
just dress the other spoon that's the

561
00:22:21,239 --> 00:22:19,809
hard bit now let's take that as give

562
00:22:23,639 --> 00:22:21,249
let's let's see what you can do the

563
00:22:25,739 --> 00:22:23,649
distress spoons step over here so get

564
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:25,749
you to hold that up like that if you tap

565
00:22:30,989 --> 00:22:27,369
it on the table like this not too hard

566
00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:30,999
just happen you can convince people that

567
00:22:34,670 --> 00:22:33,070
it's a normal spoon now what I'll get

568
00:22:38,150 --> 00:22:34,680
you to do is hold it like that

569
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:38,160
okay grab the bottom now squeeze quite

570
00:22:41,390 --> 00:22:39,600
tightly at the neck here and at the same

571
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:41,400
time start to wiggle it and eventually

572
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:43,490
it felt nice and easily and slowly

573
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:46,320
eventually you'll feel it crack let me

574
00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:47,700
know when you can feel it snap it's

575
00:22:53,450 --> 00:22:49,740
pretty close it's pretty keep going keep

576
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:53,460
going now it's done it's done don't let

577
00:22:58,580 --> 00:22:56,610
on ah don't let on so as far as you all

578
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,590
think all right and I'll just quickly

579
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:01,200
catch up I'll just quickly there we go

580
00:23:07,910 --> 00:23:05,690
so oh there it is now as you can see

581
00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:07,920
studio audience that's not your normal

582
00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:11,910
spoon alright so halves exactly but if I

583
00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:14,750
hold it like that and you have no idea

584
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:17,550
they still look like one exactly there

585
00:23:22,670 --> 00:23:19,770
now start to just give it a little

586
00:23:25,730 --> 00:23:22,680
flutter like that look at he's got the

587
00:23:28,910 --> 00:23:25,740
power she's got her now slowly release

588
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:28,920
your grip very slowly look now what's

589
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:32,010
happening in your mind's you as far as

590
00:23:39,290 --> 00:23:35,490
you know this is a solid spoon your mind

591
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,300
is now creating that bend it's creating

592
00:23:51,050 --> 00:23:41,760
the fact that it's plastic and then the

593
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:51,060
finale is yes now can you teach you to

594
00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:00,450
so that's I mean and you know being able

595
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:04,750
to do that bizarrely on radio I think

596
00:24:10,350 --> 00:24:08,050
can work so much better than than doing

597
00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:10,360
on television because the action is

598
00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:12,460
taking part in your minds when you're

599
00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:14,710
the listener now it's fun to see it been

600
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:16,840
no you're just saw it bend and it's fine

601
00:24:20,790 --> 00:24:18,910
it looks amazing of course but when

602
00:24:23,220 --> 00:24:20,800
you're when it's being described to you

603
00:24:25,770 --> 00:24:23,230
I think it's a very powerful thing too

604
00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:25,780
and I've always enjoyed doing that on

605
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:27,700
radio man like is there another one I

606
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:29,170
mean you regular made this famous is

607
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:31,210
there another psychic trick that

608
00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:32,710
charlatans using at the moment that

609
00:24:37,530 --> 00:24:34,420
would be good to do on radio or that you

610
00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:37,540
could duplicate yeah there's another one

611
00:24:42,030 --> 00:24:39,070
that gala used to do which works really

612
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,040
well on radio especially because they

613
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:44,080
call this the switchboard meltdown

614
00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:45,850
effect and this is what this is how this

615
00:24:51,650 --> 00:24:48,310
works you know there's another one yet

616
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:51,660
so what uri geller would do and and

617
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:54,610
skeptics have done this to to show the

618
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:56,650
psychology behind it so if we're on a

619
00:25:01,230 --> 00:24:58,330
talkback program you and me we're in the

620
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:01,240
studio and I say now I'm talking to all

621
00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:02,380
the thousands of people out there

622
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:04,600
listening in radioland please everybody

623
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:06,640
run to your cupboard run to your drawer

624
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:09,760
get that old watch the grandfather's

625
00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:11,710
watch or your mother's old watch it's no

626
00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:13,390
longer working it's been in the cupboard

627
00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:15,790
for years just everyone please grab that

628
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:17,880
alright so let's let's say we've got a

629
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,930
hundred thousand people listening or

630
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:21,760
whatever the case may be maybe five

631
00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:23,170
percent of those people will actually

632
00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:25,060
run to their drawers and find something

633
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:26,590
not a huge amount but that's alright

634
00:25:31,050 --> 00:25:29,110
that's still quite a lot of people then

635
00:25:33,090 --> 00:25:31,060
I'll say now you have it I'm going to

636
00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:33,100
send my psychic powers over the radio

637
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:35,470
now hold the watch in your hand give it

638
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,210
a bit of a shake give it a bit of a rub

639
00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:39,520
and I want you to think psychic thoughts

640
00:25:43,380 --> 00:25:41,980
come on we can do it all the people

641
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:43,390
listening the thousands of people around

642
00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:45,250
Australia we can make your watches work

643
00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:47,590
hold it and concentrate some of those

644
00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:48,940
people at home they've got the watch

645
00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:50,200
they're holding it tight they're

646
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:51,640
concentrating they're shaking it they're

647
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:53,890
doing all sorts of things then I'll say

648
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,230
after a minute or so now open up your

649
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:58,960
hand and have a look at the watch now

650
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:01,600
some of those watches will be ticking

651
00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:04,090
again from the mere fact of holding it

652
00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:06,430
heating up the oil shaking it it might

653
00:26:10,510 --> 00:26:08,150
not tick for long it might

654
00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:10,520
took maybe ten fifteen minutes or less

655
00:26:15,010 --> 00:26:12,590
or maybe an hour or so but that doesn't

656
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:15,020
matter okay so a small percentage of

657
00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:16,310
those people who went to their cupboards

658
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:18,920
got the watch finally look open their

659
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:20,510
eyes open their hand I mean and the

660
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:23,710
watch is ticking they're just absolutely

661
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:27,710
gobsmacked though gobsmacked cop smacked

662
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:31,490
hmm some drunk drunk scoffs much it's a

663
00:26:38,410 --> 00:26:35,690
new word they're God's much depth but

664
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,420
and just saying so then I'll say now if

665
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:40,400
your watch started ticking again please

666
00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:42,110
let us know now only if the tiny

667
00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:43,880
percentage of those people decide to

668
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:46,220
ring the radio station they're going to

669
00:26:52,450 --> 00:26:48,170
get what they call the switchboard

670
00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:52,460
meltdown say 50 people at the one time

671
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:54,740
or 20 people at the one time rang the

672
00:26:58,750 --> 00:26:57,440
radio station oh oh it's amazing we're

673
00:27:00,190 --> 00:26:58,760
getting all these calls on the board my

674
00:27:01,570 --> 00:27:00,200
watch started working it's incredible

675
00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:01,580
grandfather's watch it hadn't worked for

676
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:03,320
years as incredible I sit back and say

677
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:06,290
you see look at that it's all true and

678
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:08,030
that that's what really happens now I

679
00:27:10,810 --> 00:27:09,410
was young enough to actually see you

680
00:27:12,850 --> 00:27:10,820
again alive at the Civic Theatre

681
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:12,860
Newcastle as a kid I remember mum took

682
00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:14,330
me along and that was all this sort of

683
00:27:18,990 --> 00:27:15,920
stuff and he was predicting we would all

684
00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:19,000
have psychic powers by the year 2000

685
00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:21,260
looked up that so what about World Trade

686
00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:22,760
Center 7 Richard you got anything to say

687
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,230
about that oh boy see that's all I find

688
00:27:30,730 --> 00:27:29,120
is that with the sorting Joy's lead from

689
00:27:33,070 --> 00:27:30,740
a simple thing into an incredibly

690
00:27:34,930 --> 00:27:33,080
complex question that can't possibly be

691
00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:34,940
answered within the time allowed I think

692
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:37,540
that's right but what I would say is

693
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:40,310
it's a spoon trick it's a spoon trick

694
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:42,110
you know what I saw the other week in

695
00:27:47,470 --> 00:27:45,560
Sydney a big billboard for for the truth

696
00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:47,480
is had put out some truth is what about

697
00:27:52,090 --> 00:27:49,550
world seven and said or something and an

698
00:27:55,030 --> 00:27:52,100
address well WTC 7 is a building that

699
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:55,040
that fell with less explanation and less

700
00:28:00,040 --> 00:27:58,610
footage of it the there is one shot of a

701
00:28:01,570 --> 00:28:00,050
helicopter behind it showing the

702
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:01,580
extensive damage to the back of it which

703
00:28:05,530 --> 00:28:03,710
really gets saying well you know I I

704
00:28:08,140 --> 00:28:05,540
don't have right off the top of my head

705
00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:08,150
you're the great answer for you but I

706
00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:09,950
know Brian Dunning i'm pretty sure

707
00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:12,830
brightest episode which was very good

708
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:14,270
and that's very easy to find that one

709
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:15,650
but when you're on particularly

710
00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:17,210
commercial radio is it you where you go

711
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:19,430
on sometimes so i go on all of them you

712
00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:21,510
you get to take callers

713
00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:23,400
you can have like a huge question like

714
00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:24,900
that that couldn't be answered with a

715
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:26,700
one-hour documentary and how do you

716
00:28:31,460 --> 00:28:28,710
handle it okay well no one has ever

717
00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:31,470
called up to ask about that as a matter

718
00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:34,260
of fact what people will call up and say

719
00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:36,030
is they'll tell me their psychic

720
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:37,740
experience or they'll tell me about the

721
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:40,310
time they went to the clairvoyant and

722
00:28:46,130 --> 00:28:43,170
that can go on for minutes and minutes

723
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:46,140
minutes and unfortunately my answer the

724
00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:47,970
end as always has to be well I'm sorry I

725
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:50,400
wasn't there did you record it and then

726
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:52,110
I tried to explain the fact that people

727
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,110
miss remember people miss remember

728
00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:58,080
psychic readings it's very hard to tell

729
00:29:01,040 --> 00:28:59,610
somebody that because as far as they're

730
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,050
concerned their memories are true and

731
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:03,600
it's not bit it's not it's not their

732
00:29:07,450 --> 00:29:05,250
fault all our memories like that you

733
00:29:10,460 --> 00:29:07,460
know we need to record these things

734
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:10,470
that's what I get most of the time look

735
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:13,050
whenever before um I knew the skeptics

736
00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:14,400
as well as I do now whenever I have one

737
00:29:18,530 --> 00:29:16,200
on the show I would always get into the

738
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:18,540
topic of religion because I know that

739
00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:20,460
that goes straight into belief which

740
00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:22,860
can't be explained skeptically so when

741
00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:24,360
people ask about that goal but what

742
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,860
about God what do you normally say on

743
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:27,360
that on the eye on the public radio I

744
00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:29,330
try to keep that very brief I say

745
00:29:33,290 --> 00:29:31,350
personally I just treat that like any

746
00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:33,300
other supernatural claim you know if

747
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:34,590
there's good evidence to back it up

748
00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:37,050
beard God or unicorns or whatever the

749
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:40,590
case may be then bring forth your your

750
00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:43,110
evidence I tried to put them all in the

751
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,750
same basket but then again I'm what they

752
00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:48,000
call a Bigfoot skeptic this is a

753
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:50,430
relatively new term which means while I

754
00:29:55,610 --> 00:29:53,370
have an interest in questions of gods

755
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:55,620
and gods and that sort of thing it's not

756
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:57,810
my primary focus my primary focus is

757
00:30:02,690 --> 00:30:00,240
clairvoyance it's strange creatures it's

758
00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:02,700
it's the possibility of UFOs coming to

759
00:30:06,380 --> 00:30:04,470
it's the old-fashioned stuff it's the

760
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:06,390
stuff that we remember from the 1970s

761
00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:08,010
because that's when I got into it and

762
00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:10,740
that's my passion and also I leave those

763
00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:11,700
questions to other people because

764
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:14,220
they're far better qualified and

765
00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:16,080
knowledgeable to answer those questions

766
00:30:19,670 --> 00:30:17,700
like me and Bryce here in the audience

767
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:19,680
he's more qualified knowledgeable on

768
00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:21,330
those things than I am to to answer

769
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:22,830
those questions here he's what we refer

770
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:25,950
to as scary smart and he's a rocket

771
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:28,410
scientist you know okay look of course

772
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:29,850
it is a big week and skepticism this

773
00:30:33,899 --> 00:30:31,710
week with the release of William

774
00:30:36,729 --> 00:30:33,909
Shatner's new album Oh

775
00:30:37,779 --> 00:30:36,739
ponder the mystery which actually as

776
00:30:39,789 --> 00:30:37,789
skeptics you should all be very

777
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:39,799
skeptical of musically and lyrically

778
00:30:43,539 --> 00:30:42,049
he's done it with the members of yes and

779
00:30:45,009 --> 00:30:43,549
that do you think this could be a

780
00:30:47,259 --> 00:30:45,019
resurgence of prog rock in the

781
00:30:48,729 --> 00:30:47,269
skepticism movement now definitely an IV

782
00:30:50,859 --> 00:30:48,739
I think it's yet another wonderful

783
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:50,869
example of how William Shatner reinvents

784
00:30:55,419 --> 00:30:52,610
himself mm-hmm well I mean what is he

785
00:30:57,460 --> 00:30:55,429
pushing 80 yes yeah well what's a lot of

786
00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:57,470
the song ponder the mystery avoid the

787
00:31:01,840 --> 00:30:59,450
stiff neck of arrogance I believe is the

788
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:01,850
first line there you go so I mean I'm a

789
00:31:05,979 --> 00:31:03,919
big fan of William chattin because 11 he

790
00:31:07,869 --> 00:31:05,989
seems to be a fun guy and he doesn't

791
00:31:09,849 --> 00:31:07,879
take himself seriously yeah oh yeah it's

792
00:31:12,129 --> 00:31:09,859
like it's like a wacky New Age album

793
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:12,139
with a touch of logic to it there and

794
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:13,730
look I think that's all I've got is

795
00:31:17,019 --> 00:31:14,809
anyone got any questions before we

796
00:31:18,849 --> 00:31:17,029
finish up and get the bum's rush you

797
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:18,859
didn't show us hated your first fanfic

798
00:31:23,229 --> 00:31:20,809
which has been with a spoon horizontal

799
00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:23,239
and your brother and it rises up all

800
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:26,409
right yes or I had the benefit of the

801
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:31,369
volunteer from the audience she's

802
00:31:36,009 --> 00:31:33,919
twittering first she's texting jiu shi

803
00:31:38,289 --> 00:31:36,019
xing she's twitter is writing a blog

804
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:38,299
titled richardsaunders as a poo inspired

805
00:31:43,210 --> 00:31:40,210
by the last talk in this room at them

806
00:31:45,999 --> 00:31:43,220
yeah i love from my position of

807
00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:46,009
arrogance i will show you the south-

808
00:31:53,529 --> 00:31:51,350
arrogant festive um so the two ways to

809
00:31:56,529 --> 00:31:53,539
do the spoon now you all sort of saw

810
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:56,539
what I did to make it the break and that

811
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:59,090
takes practice but the Betty OH a tip

812
00:32:02,739 --> 00:32:00,799
when you're doing preparing a spoon for

813
00:32:04,239 --> 00:32:02,749
that be very careful because you're

814
00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:04,249
putting so much energy into here you can

815
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:06,350
actually burn your fingers and when i

816
00:32:09,879 --> 00:32:08,210
started doing with these when i was

817
00:32:11,889 --> 00:32:09,889
learning i'd put all this energy and

818
00:32:16,210 --> 00:32:11,899
touch them i get little blisters that's

819
00:32:18,639 --> 00:32:16,220
a giveaway that's it right so the second

820
00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:18,649
one it's it's again it's really a

821
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:22,190
classic case of misdirection and letting

822
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:26,570
your perceptions overtake your what you

823
00:32:31,629 --> 00:32:28,940
see in a way and i'll explain that the

824
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:31,639
the what i mean by misdirection is so

825
00:32:36,639 --> 00:32:34,850
that's a normal straight flat spoon as

826
00:32:39,129 --> 00:32:36,649
you can all see the important thing and

827
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:39,139
magicians know this very well as if I

828
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:40,609
misdirect you I can bend that quite

829
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:43,270
easily which I just did

830
00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:47,690
now show us again in slow motion mr.

831
00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:49,940
smarty alright so this is a normal

832
00:32:57,790 --> 00:32:54,400
straight flat spoon and my my goal is to

833
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:57,800
bend it I think most of you probably

834
00:33:01,030 --> 00:32:59,330
caught at that time because you're all

835
00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:01,040
prepared and waiting but if you're not

836
00:33:04,510 --> 00:33:02,870
prepared and waiting and I'm just

837
00:33:06,550 --> 00:33:04,520
holding a spoon casually like this and

838
00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:06,560
if I look you in the eye you're going to

839
00:33:09,490 --> 00:33:08,030
look me in the eye you're not going to

840
00:33:11,650 --> 00:33:09,500
look what I'm doing over here okay

841
00:33:15,010 --> 00:33:11,660
that's the first step so I get it nice

842
00:33:17,970 --> 00:33:15,020
and like that the second step is when i

843
00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:17,980
present it back i present it like this

844
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:22,070
it still looks like it's it's a flat

845
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:23,570
spoon because you didn't note i know

846
00:33:27,610 --> 00:33:25,010
it's bent the last thing you saw was a

847
00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:27,620
spoon that looked like this right the

848
00:33:32,350 --> 00:33:30,560
next step and remember in the back of

849
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:32,360
your mind you're expecting to see a band

850
00:33:36,010 --> 00:33:34,610
that's what you're expecting to see if I

851
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:36,020
hold start holding like this and stroke

852
00:33:41,230 --> 00:33:39,410
it well I have to do is just squeeze my

853
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:41,240
fingers a little bit you see how that's

854
00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:44,270
starting to rise it's just tilting on

855
00:33:47,980 --> 00:33:45,980
the on its axis all right that's what

856
00:33:51,670 --> 00:33:47,990
it's doing all I'm doing is that but

857
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,680
combined with this so I'm making you

858
00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:53,360
think that by stroking it i'm doing

859
00:34:00,100 --> 00:33:55,190
something magical and combined with your

860
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:00,110
expectations oh look at that now you all

861
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:01,730
know what I'm doing I've just explained

862
00:34:09,850 --> 00:34:05,630
it but still it looks like you know it

863
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:09,860
looks like it's it's doing that that our

864
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:12,320
time joel is it Richards naughty spoon

865
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:15,050
shop will be be later okay alright well

866
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:16,910
thank you guys for joining 101 thank you

867
00:34:25,570 --> 00:34:24,290
very much now we here near the the free

868
00:34:27,130 --> 00:34:25,580
book stand and of course we've got one

869
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:27,140
the organizers who we got here we've got

870
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:29,210
Jason Brown here whose bloody 10

871
00:34:34,450 --> 00:34:31,370
kilograms lighter than he was at skeptic

872
00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:34,460
camp last year more than 10 20 something

873
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:36,820
since yeah that the net through

874
00:34:39,970 --> 00:34:38,330
obsessive-compulsive bike-riding

875
00:34:41,950 --> 00:34:39,980
disorder I haven't been eating I've just

876
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,960
been to my fingernails

877
00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:43,760
and I've got to say congratulations on

878
00:34:46,570 --> 00:34:45,230
the nice spread you put out for lunch

879
00:34:49,329 --> 00:34:46,580
here we've got water and we've got

880
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:49,339
gluten free sandwiches well yeah you got

881
00:34:52,899 --> 00:34:50,810
to have gluten free sandwiches for the

882
00:34:54,970 --> 00:34:52,909
imaginary digestive complaints yes I

883
00:34:56,020 --> 00:34:54,980
immediately got that it looks great now

884
00:34:57,849 --> 00:34:56,030
of course when will the most

885
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:57,859
controversial moment be which wasn't

886
00:35:00,760 --> 00:34:59,359
earlier in the day as a lot of people

887
00:35:02,650 --> 00:35:00,770
think the most controversial moment will

888
00:35:04,329 --> 00:35:02,660
indeed be cupcake camp when does that

889
00:35:06,070 --> 00:35:04,339
happen we were just discussing cupcake

890
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:06,080
camp we believe that's happening

891
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:07,970
immediately after lunch that's been

892
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:09,920
conducted by two of our colleagues from

893
00:35:13,089 --> 00:35:11,690
the western sydney free thinkers who

894
00:35:14,859 --> 00:35:13,099
appear to be missing at the moment no I

895
00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:14,869
believe that there's that new the inside

896
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:16,790
running is that the all strawberry all

897
00:35:21,849 --> 00:35:19,849
day every day one could be one that is

898
00:35:24,849 --> 00:35:21,859
one to watch out for this year oh really

899
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,859
is that someone's gone to all strawberry

900
00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:26,000
route now I think the only way that

901
00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:27,230
could be beaten if someone goes the old

902
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:29,240
chocolate route which is possible so

903
00:35:32,170 --> 00:35:30,410
this could end up being very

904
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:32,180
controversial well I have some inside

905
00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:34,250
information on this and yet can you can

906
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:35,660
you spit can you spill at this moment or

907
00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:37,609
not well I could you put in a bet on

908
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:39,830
anything well look it wouldn't be

909
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:41,210
ethical of me to spill the information

910
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:42,650
if you're putting large nanny on it now

911
00:35:46,359 --> 00:35:44,450
well could see I would think all

912
00:35:48,339 --> 00:35:46,369
strawberry is a pretty good bet but then

913
00:35:50,290 --> 00:35:48,349
again chocolate usually Trump strawberry

914
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:50,300
what if there was chocolate and peanut

915
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:53,119
butter man now I'm really confused I

916
00:35:57,250 --> 00:35:55,130
don't know I really don't know here I

917
00:35:58,839 --> 00:35:57,260
think look I don't know I think I'd

918
00:36:00,849 --> 00:35:58,849
rather put my money on homeopathy then

919
00:36:03,460 --> 00:36:00,859
try and figure out who wins this haha

920
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:03,470
what surprised by the way I i do not

921
00:36:07,210 --> 00:36:05,690
know she we should find B and bronwyn

922
00:36:08,290 --> 00:36:07,220
for you so he can find out I don't know

923
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:08,300
what the prices you know as the

924
00:36:11,710 --> 00:36:09,770
organizer well what's been the focus

925
00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:11,720
this year in comparison to other years

926
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:13,369
of skeptic camp in Sydney and you've

927
00:36:16,750 --> 00:36:15,290
also been to Melbourne too so I we're a

928
00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:16,760
bit different in Sydney and what do you

929
00:36:22,329 --> 00:36:19,940
reckon um well as always the focus is on

930
00:36:24,490 --> 00:36:22,339
the people and and what comes out of

931
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,500
that and then really my big focus was

932
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:26,240
getting lunch here on time but and

933
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:27,920
you've done a great job it eventually

934
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:30,410
turned up yeah and look what sponsor so

935
00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:31,910
we had this year with the give a free

936
00:36:34,839 --> 00:36:32,900
kick for some of the people that have

937
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:34,849
hit the tin for you Oh excellent we

938
00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:36,410
responsive this year by skeptic eater

939
00:36:42,220 --> 00:36:39,560
calm in the in vino veritas podcast

940
00:36:43,780 --> 00:36:42,230
which I point again yes look hello you

941
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:43,790
keep talking about this podcast you've

942
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:45,290
only done three episodes there's been no

943
00:36:49,630 --> 00:36:47,810
new episodes for about a year I love the

944
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,640
show every time I see you guys they've

945
00:36:52,570 --> 00:36:51,200
been hundreds of episodes I know they

946
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,580
have haven't seen them well how come in

947
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:54,560
my itunes aggregator there's only three

948
00:36:57,099 --> 00:36:55,910
well something wrong with your itunes

949
00:37:00,370 --> 00:36:57,109
aggregator I'll talk to my colleague

950
00:37:02,589 --> 00:37:00,380
Dave here Dave Dave look yeah well don't

951
00:37:04,450 --> 00:37:02,599
I dived episodes of in vino veritas that

952
00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:04,460
they have been in yet because look I've

953
00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:06,260
only got three in my itunes aggregator

954
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:07,670
and i'm pretty sure you haven't put me

955
00:37:13,810 --> 00:37:09,890
at art for quite some time well we are

956
00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:13,820
think we've released 400 but we record

957
00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:15,320
in many many more we've just got a much

958
00:37:19,329 --> 00:37:17,270
higher level of quality control the most

959
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:19,339
skeptical podcasts in this country is an

960
00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:20,930
incredibly high level in that you don't

961
00:37:25,390 --> 00:37:22,460
actually release them they're straight

962
00:37:26,829 --> 00:37:25,400
was this going out on it is so good I

963
00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:26,839
mean we were just bang out the skeptic

964
00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:28,430
zone every week like it's a lot of old

965
00:37:32,530 --> 00:37:30,950
book but you guys have got stuff so good

966
00:37:35,890 --> 00:37:32,540
no one's ever going to hear it now that

967
00:37:37,930 --> 00:37:35,900
must be fantastic it's dynamite stuff

968
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:37,940
and I'll even though the world is not

969
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:40,480
really ready for the revelations within

970
00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:44,450
because look at an image please go and

971
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,500
have a listen to these three or four

972
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:47,119
podcast you can find people because it

973
00:37:50,740 --> 00:37:48,890
is one of my favorite podcast of all

974
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:50,750
time you guys get there you get a bit

975
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:52,970
pissy as the show goes on you get a bit

976
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:55,130
more look anything could happen

977
00:37:58,750 --> 00:37:57,050
is the emergency content alarm which I

978
00:38:01,390 --> 00:37:58,760
think should be made mandatory on all

979
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:01,400
ABC radio stations every hour because

980
00:38:05,859 --> 00:38:03,250
it's fantastic you just hit the random

981
00:38:07,690 --> 00:38:05,869
search on Google is Amit yeah answers

982
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:07,700
that we've run out of content and just

983
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:09,890
skips in which sounds uncannily like an

984
00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:14,480
alarm on Blake 7 the the several alarms

985
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:15,950
are there's one from Blake 7 this one

986
00:38:22,030 --> 00:38:18,140
from Blake's 8 which never even got that

987
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:22,040
that's another secret there's there's

988
00:38:26,829 --> 00:38:24,170
one from the fifth element and the sixth

989
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:26,839
element this one from Hawaii five-o and

990
00:38:32,349 --> 00:38:31,130
Hawaii 707 oh yeah how I 60 to see this

991
00:38:33,790 --> 00:38:32,359
and this is the kind of stuff you hear

992
00:38:35,170 --> 00:38:33,800
on the show now Dave you're going to get

993
00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:35,180
up in front the people and give a talk

994
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:36,260
today what are you gonna be doing in

995
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:37,910
skeptic camp um well I've actually

996
00:38:42,430 --> 00:38:40,730
already given mind today Oh

997
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:42,440
do I look for you mean as oh look I

998
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:44,450
can't be two places at one how about how

999
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:49,040
about yes and I'm actually practicing

1000
00:38:53,530 --> 00:38:50,720
today for a competition tonight I'm

1001
00:38:55,330 --> 00:38:53,540
competing in a state semi finals at the

1002
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:55,340
toastmasters humorous speech competition

1003
00:38:58,720 --> 00:38:56,960
where I will be delivering my humorous

1004
00:39:01,150 --> 00:38:58,730
speech entitled the principles of

1005
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:01,160
homeopathy mmm now that's a bit of a

1006
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,050
specialist subject you think you run a

1007
00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:05,680
risk of the audience not getting it I

1008
00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:08,270
tried to demonstrate I use props and I

1009
00:39:12,490 --> 00:39:10,790
demonstrate very clearly the the three

1010
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:12,500
ideas that I think a quarter homeopathy

1011
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:15,710
extreme dilution sir cushion but that is

1012
00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:18,890
banging on a book and like yours like

1013
00:39:23,230 --> 00:39:20,870
and and the speech is built around these

1014
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:23,240
these three ideas and and and then a lot

1015
00:39:26,830 --> 00:39:25,370
of you know me a practical demo doll

1016
00:39:28,780 --> 00:39:26,840
have you got something you'll yeah I'm

1017
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:28,790
certainly am i'm creating the world's

1018
00:39:32,110 --> 00:39:30,560
greatest hangover cure by using shiraz

1019
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:32,120
as the basis for my homeopathic

1020
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:35,210
preparation that's great look I wish you

1021
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:36,560
luck with that again I think the only

1022
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:37,730
thing against you is you could be a bit

1023
00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:40,010
too specialist but I love it all right

1024
00:39:43,870 --> 00:39:41,540
it's definitely written for the layman I

1025
00:39:45,790 --> 00:39:43,880
mean good unless you unless you're

1026
00:39:47,590 --> 00:39:45,800
teetotal I'm sure you'll be fine now we

1027
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:47,600
attempted at any stage to pick up your

1028
00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:49,610
guitar and sing during it and would you

1029
00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:50,630
be allowed to do that during

1030
00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:52,670
Toastmasters can you or can your augment

1031
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:55,840
with music I'm sure there's no rules

1032
00:39:59,500 --> 00:39:58,010
against it I'm not certainly not doing

1033
00:40:01,570 --> 00:39:59,510
it this time I've not tried I might have

1034
00:40:03,370 --> 00:40:01,580
to make a speech about constructing

1035
00:40:05,740 --> 00:40:03,380
improvised comedy songs and then I can

1036
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:05,750
probably work it in ya and what what did

1037
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:08,000
you have been trickling your hairs in

1038
00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:09,350
the skeptical movement lately because we

1039
00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:10,760
haven't spoken since lunchtime at last

1040
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:12,470
skipped again Dave so so will you what

1041
00:40:16,060 --> 00:40:14,210
do you been into what what have you been

1042
00:40:17,230 --> 00:40:16,070
railing against because i'd love to hear

1043
00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:17,240
on your podcast apparently it doesn't

1044
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:19,070
come out about it's still sequestered

1045
00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:20,480
the stuff you've said on your podcast

1046
00:40:25,810 --> 00:40:22,900
but what you've been railing against i

1047
00:40:29,110 --> 00:40:25,820
personally i've been very quiet lately

1048
00:40:30,070 --> 00:40:29,120
as i prepare for some i'm trying to

1049
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:30,080
write some new songs actually i'm

1050
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:31,310
thinking of getting back into gigging

1051
00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:32,930
again it's into the skeptical thing

1052
00:40:35,830 --> 00:40:34,190
that's happening at the moment and i'm

1053
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:35,840
not taking any credit for this but i'm

1054
00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:37,610
really excited about the renewed

1055
00:40:41,350 --> 00:40:39,080
pressure that's coming onto the the

1056
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:41,360
end of chiropractic or as i

1057
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:43,770
call it chiropractic

1058
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:46,960
the reasonable Hank the bloggers

1059
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:48,790
reasonable Hank has been has been doing

1060
00:40:53,790 --> 00:40:51,430
and some of the I think the Fairfax

1061
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:53,800
babies is fantastic the failure the

1062
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:55,630
Fairfax papers and some of the news

1063
00:40:58,770 --> 00:40:57,310
court papers I think I've been wailing

1064
00:41:00,810 --> 00:40:58,780
why do you think that finally come

1065
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:00,820
around to this do you think they've seen

1066
00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:02,530
a target where people are potentially

1067
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:03,790
being ripped off and they're taking that

1068
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:07,570
angle the consumer protection angle um I

1069
00:41:13,530 --> 00:41:11,410
just but I II might just be a um just so

1070
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,540
it's just a political thing I think the

1071
00:41:16,650 --> 00:41:15,040
health care is such a is such a hot

1072
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:16,660
potato and when people are taking money

1073
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:18,970
for something that is just potentially

1074
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,460
dangerous and when when people are doing

1075
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:24,160
this with health funds you know with

1076
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:25,570
health fund money or even with Medicare

1077
00:41:30,990 --> 00:41:27,970
then then a mother's health Fair's

1078
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:31,000
Healthcare's a massive a massive part of

1079
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,560
a country's expenditure and when he's

1080
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:35,200
being spell on rubbish it's not just a

1081
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:36,400
scientific issue it's not just an

1082
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:38,170
ethical issue it is a serious political

1083
00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:40,810
issue so it's about time that the

1084
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:43,270
medicine was reigned in and I know me my

1085
00:41:47,610 --> 00:41:44,890
tummy medicine in the broadest sense now

1086
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:47,620
not in in real medicine it's about time

1087
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:50,410
that it was you know really held to

1088
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:51,610
account by the media cuz that's better

1089
00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:54,490
job well I want direct people to the

1090
00:41:57,900 --> 00:41:56,380
podcast that you have done so far these

1091
00:41:59,850 --> 00:41:57,910
three excellent episodes where can we

1092
00:42:02,220 --> 00:41:59,860
find them on the web there are in vino

1093
00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:02,230
veritas podcast com okay and if people

1094
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,940
like it right to these guys and tell him

1095
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:05,440
to get out and get that stuff out of the

1096
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:08,410
vault oh the vault is packed jam-packed

1097
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:11,200
full of gold seriously if we released it

1098
00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:13,450
it would devalue all other podcasts and

1099
00:42:17,130 --> 00:42:14,860
we don't want to do that and also I must

1100
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:17,140
point people to your soundcloud page as

1101
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:18,970
well will you have a cracker version of

1102
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:21,490
the Benny Hill theme on kazoo and

1103
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:23,530
ukulele indeed that's soundcloud.com

1104
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:27,550
ford / top that astronaut yeah yes stop

1105
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:29,110
that that it's the best version I've

1106
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:30,490
ever heard and if you got something that

1107
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:32,500
we'd like to direct us to debut surely

1108
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:34,090
your musical stuff must be on soundcloud

1109
00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:39,910
somewhere um yes no no my musical stuff

1110
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:41,860
is my musical source also know if you

1111
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:43,450
search youtube for Dave the happy singer

1112
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:44,890
you will cyan't find some old videos of

1113
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,660
me digging if you really want to but I

1114
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:48,160
mean I wouldn't recommend it I'm very

1115
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:48,910
bad

1116
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,230
well thanks guys I'll get back to lunch

1117
00:42:55,930 --> 00:42:52,880
and look at have you got an inside

1118
00:42:59,290 --> 00:42:55,940
winner for cupcake camp oh I've got my

1119
00:43:00,700 --> 00:42:59,300
money on Ruby Soros is that the

1120
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:00,710
strawberry entry or the chocolate entry

1121
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:10,310
yes oh whoa and with that cupcakes win

1122
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:12,110
because the most important part of the

1123
00:43:15,790 --> 00:43:13,910
day is here now could you explain to the

1124
00:43:17,950 --> 00:43:15,800
list of what's going on here so we're

1125
00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:17,960
doing cupcake camp at the moment cupcake

1126
00:43:22,570 --> 00:43:19,840
camp is a tradition of skeptic at

1127
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:22,580
everyone brings some delicious homemade

1128
00:43:26,890 --> 00:43:24,890
cupcakes and everyone gets some free

1129
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:26,900
cupcakes to try and then they vote on

1130
00:43:30,070 --> 00:43:29,090
their favorite how many different people

1131
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:30,080
have we got entering and how many

1132
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:31,250
different and how many how many

1133
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:33,170
different entries we got to judge we've

1134
00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:35,590
got quite a few entries we've got um

1135
00:43:41,950 --> 00:43:39,260
some from Esther some from Ruth some

1136
00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:41,960
from Dance some from B and some from

1137
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:44,150
myself so there's lots of variety here

1138
00:43:47,470 --> 00:43:46,250
today I see a range of flavors here I

1139
00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:47,480
was told that there was going to be a

1140
00:43:50,410 --> 00:43:49,070
strong presence from strawberry here

1141
00:43:52,930 --> 00:43:50,420
today is that correctly the strawberry

1142
00:43:55,390 --> 00:43:52,940
Baker I am the strawberry Baker my

1143
00:43:58,530 --> 00:43:55,400
cupcakes strawberry cupcakes with cream

1144
00:44:01,390 --> 00:43:58,540
cheese frosting and fairy floss on top

1145
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:01,400
well I can see them there visually very

1146
00:44:05,140 --> 00:44:03,530
pleasing I think I think the thing that

1147
00:44:06,670 --> 00:44:05,150
only could beat them is if there was

1148
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:06,680
something maybe with some chocolate or

1149
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:08,750
some honey or like that so it could be

1150
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:10,370
it could be anyone's game couldn't it

1151
00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:12,650
well yeah but I think the ester deserves

1152
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:14,390
a mention for her cookie monster

1153
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:16,610
cupcakes complete with cookie in his

1154
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:18,770
mouth I think that's really good idea

1155
00:44:23,470 --> 00:44:21,110
that is pretty good now do you think

1156
00:44:25,210 --> 00:44:23,480
part is the vit what percentage is a

1157
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:25,220
visual and what percentage is actual

1158
00:44:28,570 --> 00:44:26,450
taste you think you ever tried to work

1159
00:44:30,490 --> 00:44:28,580
this out what makes a great cupcake well

1160
00:44:32,890 --> 00:44:30,500
I think a great cupcake has to be both

1161
00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:32,900
but I think today it will definitely be

1162
00:44:37,570 --> 00:44:35,750
dominated by flavor so we'll see we'll

1163
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,580
see what the people think i'm going to

1164
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:38,960
get into this right now it's anyone's

1165
00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:40,490
game i'm not surprised by the way I

1166
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:43,400
think the prizes donated by ratbags this

1167
00:44:47,890 --> 00:44:46,130
year again I'm not entirely sure what it

1168
00:44:50,590 --> 00:44:47,900
is but it was a bottle of wine he's

1169
00:44:52,229 --> 00:44:50,600
already drank it oh no you'll find

1170
00:44:56,789 --> 00:44:52,239
another one in the boot of his car

1171
00:44:59,669 --> 00:44:56,799
I just say I've just had Esther's cookie

1172
00:45:00,989 --> 00:44:59,679
monster cupcake it's pretty unreal we've

1173
00:45:02,339 --> 00:45:00,999
got a man here who's got one here now

1174
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:02,349
believe that that's Esther's entry in

1175
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:04,209
the cupcake competition okay it's a

1176
00:45:08,579 --> 00:45:06,129
cookie monster actually eating a small

1177
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:08,589
cookie as a cupcake I'd like a response

1178
00:45:20,759 --> 00:45:18,729
as you eat it sir here we go it's a

1179
00:45:22,589 --> 00:45:20,769
small chocolate chip cookie whatever the

1180
00:45:24,479 --> 00:45:22,599
eyes are made out of and all that

1181
00:45:27,659 --> 00:45:24,489
beautiful icing all in one go it's

1182
00:45:29,279 --> 00:45:27,669
almost a bit much yeah yeah I do have

1183
00:45:32,819 --> 00:45:29,289
one coming it's definitely not enough

1184
00:45:35,489 --> 00:45:32,829
Bluetooth noil definitely need more blue

1185
00:45:37,229 --> 00:45:35,499
food but this is very good it's really

1186
00:45:40,379 --> 00:45:37,239
good it's definitely I believe as I say

1187
00:45:42,299 --> 00:45:40,389
in the world of cat cakes a contender it

1188
00:45:48,749 --> 00:45:42,309
is indeed it's it's not too sweet just

1189
00:45:50,759 --> 00:45:48,759
just right yeah it's nice now well done

1190
00:45:52,109 --> 00:45:50,769
esta on the cookie monster cupcake what

1191
00:45:55,529 --> 00:45:52,119
inspired you to do a cookie monster

1192
00:45:58,739 --> 00:45:55,539
stuff that's Paul as well oh right well

1193
00:46:02,219 --> 00:45:58,749
done Paul oh are you about you oh I see

1194
00:46:04,499 --> 00:46:02,229
you're both claiming okay coalition I I

1195
00:46:06,809 --> 00:46:04,509
say it's pretty good it's a visual feast

1196
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:06,819
and what are the eyes made of the googly

1197
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:09,609
monsters eyes actually mint Eminem's

1198
00:46:14,189 --> 00:46:12,249
right so in that cupcake you're getting

1199
00:46:15,539 --> 00:46:14,199
a small chocolate chip cookie you're

1200
00:46:17,219 --> 00:46:15,549
getting the beautiful blue icing and

1201
00:46:18,929 --> 00:46:17,229
you're getting mint Eminem's it's the

1202
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:18,939
gift that keeps on giving well it is

1203
00:46:22,229 --> 00:46:20,649
pretty did you ever did you do a calorie

1204
00:46:24,029 --> 00:46:22,239
count on that for those it might be

1205
00:46:25,469 --> 00:46:24,039
diabetic will be just going to a seizure

1206
00:46:27,899 --> 00:46:25,479
it's probably best not to think about

1207
00:46:29,729 --> 00:46:27,909
that yeah we're all contracting diabetes

1208
00:46:31,619 --> 00:46:29,739
as we speak i think i'm gonna make like

1209
00:46:33,059 --> 00:46:31,629
a hungry dog now and get all my cupcakes

1210
00:46:36,269 --> 00:46:33,069
into the corner and eat them slowly

1211
00:46:38,369 --> 00:46:36,279
defensively well I've just had a few

1212
00:46:40,919 --> 00:46:38,379
cupcakes there and I'm getting a huge

1213
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:40,929
sugar hit now Michael Michael you've

1214
00:46:44,249 --> 00:46:42,609
been you you're watching your weight so

1215
00:46:47,579 --> 00:46:44,259
you've been staying as far as possible

1216
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:47,589
from the cupcake camp table yes yes in

1217
00:46:51,869 --> 00:46:49,689
danger of actually exploding currently

1218
00:46:54,299 --> 00:46:51,879
oh look that's cuz you had an injury

1219
00:46:56,399 --> 00:46:54,309
you've had a wrist injury which we can

1220
00:46:57,959 --> 00:46:56,409
lower the amount of exercise you do but

1221
00:46:58,889 --> 00:46:57,969
it hasn't stopped you the amount of

1222
00:47:00,659 --> 00:46:58,899
listening you've been doing to the

1223
00:47:01,919 --> 00:47:00,669
skipping zone it's a new listener we're

1224
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:01,929
meeting here Michael when did you pick

1225
00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:02,740
up on the zone

1226
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:05,230
oh I would have started listening in

1227
00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:09,670
about november two thousand twelve now

1228
00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:13,000
to let have that happen ah basically i

1229
00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:15,640
was sick of listening to idiots there

1230
00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:18,430
was too much woo and garbage going

1231
00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:21,180
around started listening to skeptical

1232
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:25,350
podcasts suddenly heard you talking to

1233
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Geo from geologic and instantly had to

1234
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:31,330
go and listen to all the back catalog

1235
00:47:35,850 --> 00:47:34,450
all right and look and and I've got lots

1236
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:35,860
of interviews with jail on my own

1237
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:37,450
podcast as well where you can like spend

1238
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,310
an hour talking to him and man we really

1239
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:41,440
get into a don't we just slightly the

1240
00:47:45,390 --> 00:47:44,380
one at tam I think would have to be one

1241
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:45,400
of the best interviews I've ever done

1242
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:47,410
with anyone because we covered a lot of

1243
00:47:51,570 --> 00:47:49,450
taboos subjects in that and stuff that

1244
00:47:53,550 --> 00:47:51,580
you wouldn't normally talk to with any

1245
00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:53,560
any interview subject and I thought it

1246
00:47:59,130 --> 00:47:56,070
was very I loved that interview yeah oh

1247
00:48:02,130 --> 00:47:59,140
he seems to interval interview very well

1248
00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:02,140
and you seem to really connect with him

1249
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:03,670
you can hear it in the interviews it's

1250
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,770
really really good I think as he says in

1251
00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:07,359
the interview geo's used to doing the

1252
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:08,950
geologic podcast every week so every

1253
00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:09,970
week he's got to come up with something

1254
00:48:13,830 --> 00:48:12,100
he's got to say something so he's long

1255
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:13,840
ago puck gone past the barrier where

1256
00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:15,430
he's worried about what he says but he

1257
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:17,380
also thinks through most those things on

1258
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:20,890
the fly very well yeah he absolutely can

1259
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:22,330
see that he's actually spent some time

1260
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:26,609
thinking to enlist sorry thinking and

1261
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:29,770
working out his position behind an

1262
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,570
argument and you hear him occasionally

1263
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:34,000
will say well no I was wrong I've

1264
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:36,670
changed my mind just which all good

1265
00:48:42,359 --> 00:48:39,369
skeptics should do it's the one thing

1266
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:42,369
that people don't seem to realize a part

1267
00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:45,010
of science is being able to say okay got

1268
00:48:52,460 --> 00:48:50,200
it wrong a new line of inquiry and it's

1269
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:52,470
still science in fact that is science

1270
00:48:56,849 --> 00:48:55,150
nope Michael where do you listen to your

1271
00:48:58,109 --> 00:48:56,859
science podcast and indeed the skipping

1272
00:49:00,210 --> 00:48:58,119
zone where do you do your listening

1273
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:00,220
what's your listing habits okay my

1274
00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:03,310
listening is either in the car or a lot

1275
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:05,350
of the time I spend working in a very

1276
00:49:09,660 --> 00:49:07,810
noisy environments engineering plants

1277
00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:09,670
and so

1278
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:10,990
than just listening to nothing with

1279
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,480
boring headphones are earmuffs on I have

1280
00:49:18,569 --> 00:49:15,280
headphones with noise canceling in them

1281
00:49:19,770 --> 00:49:18,579
and listen to you guys well it's great

1282
00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:19,780
to have you on board as a listener what

1283
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:20,829
do you think of your first skipped your

1284
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:24,250
camp today really good very very nice

1285
00:49:29,819 --> 00:49:26,770
out of talk to people about pretty much

1286
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:29,829
any subject and even if you disagreed

1287
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:31,900
with someone you know you're going to

1288
00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:35,049
get a reason to debate so you can change

1289
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:36,700
your own moment they can change my mind

1290
00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:39,490
I might change their mind but it's

1291
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:41,589
really nice to have an area where you

1292
00:49:45,539 --> 00:49:43,410
can actually talk to people I'm

1293
00:49:46,799 --> 00:49:45,549
particularly disappointed with the

1294
00:49:49,230 --> 00:49:46,809
skeptic anthems there has not been

1295
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:49,240
enough open and robust discussion about

1296
00:49:54,930 --> 00:49:51,250
William Shatner's new album ponder the

1297
00:49:56,190 --> 00:49:54,940
mystery ok that's an i can't say i've

1298
00:49:57,839 --> 00:49:56,200
heard a lot of that one so you're good

1299
00:49:59,549 --> 00:49:57,849
to stonewalling me on that you you're

1300
00:50:01,770 --> 00:49:59,559
trying to divert me away from my topic

1301
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:01,780
so you Nandi shatner you the anti

1302
00:50:07,890 --> 00:50:03,849
schatten affection no I wouldn't say

1303
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:07,900
that I mean I did prefer Nimoy's version

1304
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:11,970
of if I had a hammer was it no the

1305
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:15,520
hobbit one old but Bilbo back although

1306
00:50:25,140 --> 00:50:19,599
Baggins that's it ok although Shatner's

1307
00:50:29,789 --> 00:50:25,150
very direct and pointed lyrics up but

1308
00:50:30,809 --> 00:50:29,799
ticularly interesting ah yes well see

1309
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:30,819
that that's the kind of robust

1310
00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:32,410
discussion we won here today look

1311
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:33,640
Michael that great to have you on board

1312
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:35,650
as a listener and enjoy your day thank

1313
00:50:41,220 --> 00:50:39,010
you very much may not I'll just make my

1314
00:50:42,930 --> 00:50:41,230
way over to the the cupcake camp

1315
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,940
decision words being worked on an excuse

1316
00:50:47,789 --> 00:50:44,559
me serve you you got any on the inside

1317
00:50:50,579 --> 00:50:47,799
running on cupcake camp um I voted for

1318
00:50:52,170 --> 00:50:50,589
vanilla and I'm proud but that I I

1319
00:50:54,089 --> 00:50:52,180
thought that was merely a sexual

1320
00:50:56,910 --> 00:50:54,099
preference on your part oh that's just

1321
00:50:58,829 --> 00:50:56,920
by the side by the way you know and what

1322
00:51:00,359 --> 00:50:58,839
because people were working the flavors

1323
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:00,369
too hard this year strawberry was too

1324
00:51:03,870 --> 00:51:02,710
much the cookie one had too much in it

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is that why you would just don't plain

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vanilla I had no problem with the cookie

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one but I just prefer the plain vanilla

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I'm a I'm a very plain vanilla person

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okay but you are wearing a trilby hat

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sir I am wearing a trilby yes we've got

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many people here at skip de Kamp

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rumbling tumbling talking out in the

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foyer have you made a vote on the

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cupcake can

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competition yet no I actually haven't I

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so see you sir I've been eating some

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cupcake see which one of you listed is

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your favorite the one with the Bailey's

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yeah yeah that would goal is not okay

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right that's enough it's a tough choice

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it is isn't it yeah actually made a

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point to actually try each one of them

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and drink some water in between so they

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can taste them clearly you're gonna

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serve the cupcake that's exactly sugar

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over love I think estes cookie monster

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cupcake has me going because he had the

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mint eyes the little chocolate chip

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cookie in the monsters mouth pretty good

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yeah I must say it's pretty cute well

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it's all going to eat and be obviously a

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Bailey's fan yeah well I don't oh I

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I'm gonna have the announcement for

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cupcake cap big announcement do you find

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these in a cupcake camp 2013 okay oh

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yeah that's the most important bit oh

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but the other pray Lord it is actually

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one sir beijing right stupid i got a

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of course I'll never cupcake queen Joyce

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of two books from indigent books which

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one is yours I remains the same

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approximate the hands-down was adorable

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cupcakes with estimate of cookie once

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yes Esther taking it out she's come

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and third prize goes to the most

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orgasmic chocolate cupcakes that I have

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ever had Daniel well now we've got

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someone who is intimately involved in

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the selection of the winner of Cupcake

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camp who have we got him oh this is B

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hello pleased to meet you once again we

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spoke last year now i believe Ruth has

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won again from Canberra Esper Esther

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came second with her cookie monster now

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what did Ruth from Canberra win with Oh

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Bruce fun with her baileys irish cream

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cupcakes which were absolutely amazing

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00:53:57,059 --> 00:53:53,799
no how did you manage to do it without

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making it too cloying oh I don't know I

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don't know her secrets mom not just go

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ask if it was the clear winner it was

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actually um but Ruth I think part of her

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secret is how pretty she makes her

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cupcakes I think I'm some stats have

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just come in now stats man's come in

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it's a downtown Jason Brown this was the

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third Sydney skeptic amp the fifth in

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Australia but the 75th worldwide well

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you get some sort of award a ribbon a

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horse I wish I'm gonna have to talk to

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00:54:31,859 --> 00:54:27,309
read and see how I'm gonna get some sort

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of trophy or medal or a bar of gold some

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sort of bottle of beer even look

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congratulations on your 20 kilograms

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plus weight loss since last year and

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also on the 75th skip decamp and now

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it's time for drinks it is we're off to

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the pub now you come to the pub menos

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science news you need to know this week

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in science we sought Nobel Prizes

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announced why exercise is good for the

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brain and the heartfelt effect of

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us researchers have developed

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self-assembling robots Terminator eat

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climb over and around each other leap

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through the air and roll across surfaces

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inbuilt magnets help the cube stick

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together and they could be programmed to

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automatically assemble into furniture or

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heavy equipment as required they could

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also operate in hostile and inaccessible

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environments and reorganize themselves

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to overcome obstacles the creme de la

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creme of awards the nobel prizes were

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00:56:42,370 --> 00:56:40,190
announced in stockholm this week the

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prize for medicine was awarded to James

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Wrotham Randy sakmann and thomas suedhof

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for discovering how cells transport

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00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,880
system works as expected the physics

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00:56:54,279 --> 00:56:51,680
prize was awarded to Peter Higgs and

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00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:54,289
Francois Englert for their higgs boson

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:56,329
theory whose existence was confirmed

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00:57:00,250 --> 00:56:58,130
last year at the Large Hadron Collider

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00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:00,260
and the coast v prize was awarded to

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00:57:05,140 --> 00:57:02,690
martin karplus Michael Levitt and re

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00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:05,150
warshel who combined classical and

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00:57:10,299 --> 00:57:07,250
quantum physics to understand complex

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chemical processes this led to modern

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computer modeling in chemistry you're

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listening to a week in science from RI

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seconds living near an airport is linked

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with an increased risk of heart disease

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exercise is good for our brains as it

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increases the release of ireson a

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molecule responsible for improving

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memory and learning in response to a

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spate of knuckle injuries in elderly

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people Australian engineers have

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redesigned the humble wheelie bin making

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it safer if it topples and elephants

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recognize if a human points at an object

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unlike great apes who generally don't

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understand pointing at all last week we

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00:57:55,900 --> 00:57:53,539
asked you about water on Mars there is

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approximately one liter of water in

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every 30 kilograms of martian soil make

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sure you watch the Arias live stream on

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very busy folks I promise you that can't

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Convention in Canberra now I have been

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meaning to bring you reports about

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chiropractic which has been in the news

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lately still working on that one had a

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few bumps along the way in the last

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couple of weeks as you understand but we

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will bring you that as soon as we can

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but for this week and no matter where

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you are or what you're doing if you're

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driving in your car if you're at the gym

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at the moment on the treadmill which I

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try to do as often as I can if you're

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riding your bike walking along the

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street working or working late into the

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night thank you for listening to the

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